Question:
Does he want me or a place to stay?
2007-07-19 12:09:13 UTC
I been dateing a guy for about 3 years off and on. i just want back out with him about 10 months ago and we live togther but i have to pay all the bills. i work 40 hours a week and i don't mind but i always broke never havwe money to go out on. He a great guy sometimes but lately he been rude i don't if he just stress or thats how he really is. I am tired of coming home to get in figths and being put down about all sorts of things, I don't mind that he play games all day or even the fact he doesn't clean up or try to help. i just don't like the fact the i have to work and he says he looking for a job but how long does it really take to get a job. I know it's hard but it's not very fair for me working all day and he doesn't have too i understand thast he gets 200 a month for extra money and he trys to help as much as he can. he even shut he phone off so he can help me. but if he cared for me so much then while do we always figth and why does he always put me down?
36 answers:
2007-07-27 06:01:56 UTC
It sounds like he just wants a place to stay. Not that he doesnt like you. But since you have been doing all the work, he just expects you to keep doing it. This guy sounds pretty unsteady. Your relationship was going up and down and I dont think this guy could be a life partner, well atleast not for you. Either try and comprimise, save the relationship if its worth it. Or you can dump the guy and meet a guy who is better and knows how to treat a woman. It is the 21st century, you both should be making money, helping around the house and spliting everything equaly because thats what couples are supposed to do.
Been_there_done_that
2007-07-19 12:24:37 UTC
I don't want to say the over-used phrase, "Lose the zero and find yourself a hero" because you may do well to just kick him out and be on your own for a bit. He should be giving you respect if you are paying the bills. While you're out working for those 40 hours, he could be taking the time out of his busy day of gaming and holding down the couch to clean up the place so that you have somewhere clean to come home to after a long day at work. He's mooching off of you. He's obviously using you and perhaps because he can't find a job...(if he's really looking)...he might want to try a temp agency. They would be able to place him, even part-time, so he can make some money to help out. Him shutting off his phone to help you....Are you sure it wasn't because he was just too lazy to find a job and make the money to keep the phone on? I don't want to bash this guy that I've never met, but I know a few guys with this behavior and he won't change unless you boot him out. If he really is interested in having a relationship with you, he'll find a job and come back to you a better man. If he isn't, then he'll find someone else to live with and pay his way in life. If the last one is what happens...well...you didn't want that loser anyway. You'll do fine without him there because you're paying for everything right now anyway. In fact, you could get a roommate who WILL help you pay for half of the rent and utilities and then you can have money to go out for drinks and dancing to celebrate kicking that loser out. Good Luck!
beautifulirishgirl
2007-07-19 12:14:34 UTC
How is he getting 200$ a month extra? And also, dump him. I dated a guy like that. I worked, paid the bills, and did all the cleaning. He sat on his ***, slept, watched tv, and smoked. He could never keep a job for more than a few weeks. Finally I threw him out. He was a pathological liar on top of being a deadbeat. I realized he was never going to amount to anything, and I wouldn't support him the rest of my life. After I dumped him, he used my debit card to buy things online (he had stolen the number while I was asleep). I of course filed a report with the police and got my money back, but nothing was done to him. It's a shame he's still in the gene pool.
sweet sexy thing
2007-07-27 06:57:38 UTC
if he really loves you, he wouldn't want you to be stuck in a hard situation.. he would want to provide a good life for you.. it's hard to get a job these days, but maybe he's not trying hard enough.. and if he's been trying really hard and still can't find a job, then he should atleast clean up your place, cook for you, or help you do the laundry.. you're the one who's working to have money so that the two of you can eat, he should be man enough to do his part.. he should atleast treat you right.. he's the man, and the man should be the one doing the hard work.. if you're no longer happy with your situation with him, then it would be best if you talk things out.. give him an ultimatum.. if he still ignores it, then it's time to let go.. that's when you'd know how much he loves you.. because if you'd leave him, he'd find ways just so you'd take him back..
mschocliq25
2007-07-27 07:02:29 UTC
I was once in the same boat. I was working 40 hours a week and my EX-boyfriend moved in with me. He would say he was going to find a job, but would come up with every excuse as to way he didn't go. It got so bad that I started putting applications in for him over the internet. He finally found a job at rent a center, guess how long he kept his job. . . 1 month. Then he found another job at the casino, guess how long he kept that job . . . 2 weeks. It started to become a pattern. I got tired of paying all the bills, I got tired of him and his friends chillin at my house while I was at work, I got tired of him thinking he was runnin my house. . . I got tired! When you feel you had enough, and it's to the point where you can't take it anymore and you become tired, then let it go. You can do bad all by yourself.
2007-07-19 12:15:47 UTC
Dont even try to defend this guy!!! You know hes not even helping. Why pay for some guy who fights with you and makes you broke? Your better off on your own. Wait.. in 2 years you'll be broke with him! get rid off him. You can support yourself - which is great, but so should the other partner. You dont deserve him, esp in a on and off relationship, that will ruin it. Kick him out - hes playing games and all in YOUR home. Give it 2 weeks. If not - break up and kick him out. Dont fall for his tricks or words. He could atleast help out if hes not working. ... Soo.. 2-3 weeks and if nothing moves forward, serioulsy kick him out. You can do better. You seem like a great and helpful person with lots of stress - you dont need anymore.
2007-07-27 10:53:51 UTC
Looks like he doesn't feel motivated to get a job since it seems like your able to handle all the responsibility of paying bills and rent on your own. My best friend has been dating a guy for 8 years and he's the same way! He's become accustomed to her taking care of him (I've tried to get her to leave him with no luck). Her boyfriend is never going to change and neither is your boyfriend if you don't put your foot down.
gcocoaqueen35
2007-07-26 21:01:52 UTC
It's your house and you are the Queen of your castle! How dare he put you down and fight with you. You need to let him know that if he can't respect you and your space then he needs to do something different. There are plenty of other fish in the sea so don't sell yourself short. It is nice to have a man in your bed, but make sure he's making you happy. Are you sure he is really looking for a job or is he just too comfortable? You need to do what is going to make you happy instead of broke and miserable.
2007-07-19 12:19:53 UTC
I think you don't have to take this **** .... He sits all day playing video games>? doesn't help you clean>? HE DOESN'T WORK!

Whats is wrong with you are so afraid to be alone and you take all this BS cause of it?



He doesn't love you might care for you...... because a person that loves doesn't do this... I am not working I got fired 2 weeks ago and it breaks my heart not being able to help my fiance..... I am looking every where for a job but till then I clean , cook and keep my self busy..... LEARN TO LOVE YOUR SELF A LITTLE MORE.
madcityd0623
2007-07-19 12:15:27 UTC
Honey, why should he get a job when you pay all the bills. You need to kick him out now. It takes 2 weeks to get some kind of job. He fights with you all the time because he can. You don't stop him from anything so he will continue. Kick him out now, with friends if you need to.
Jacq
2007-07-19 12:20:00 UTC
Someone who treats you like that has no respect for you and should be kicked out the door. He sounds like a lazy bum and is definitely taking advantage of your kindness and love for him. Tell him to move back in with his parents, get a job, then MAYBE give you a call when he's self-supporting and can take you out and treat you like a lady. Someone who puts you down and starts fights doesn't deserve you. Show him the door and kick him OUT!
angel
2007-07-27 05:46:56 UTC
here is the truth gurl, men dont like a woman to beat them at anything, the fact that he cant provide makes him feel inedaquate, and he thinks that if he brings u down, he will be more of a man,he brings u down to feel good bout himself, he thinks coz he doesnt do much u will leave him, and he hurts u coz, its the only way he thinks he will keep u, he sounds like he only wants a place to stay, and i think u should tell him, to help, it is ur house, and u shouldnt have to come to such in a house u pay, by someone who doesnt contribute, and if he wanted to help u , he would to temp work until he fond a real job.
Ms Blue
2007-07-27 05:36:03 UTC
You do mind that he plays games all day. He is a jerk leave him. Tell him in the real world a man works room and board. You are degrading yourself by letting him use you. Have self confidence for you will meet someone that is worth your time, and that appreciates your gifts.
2007-07-19 12:14:46 UTC
He is taking advantage of you, and you are allowing it to continue. It doesn't sound like much of a loving relationship either.

Give him 30 days to find a job, then throw him and his stuff to the curb. Stay strong.

Or better yet, just throw him out and say good riddance!
2007-07-27 10:52:48 UTC
HE probably didnt shut his phone off, THE PHONE COMP shut it off. It sounds like hes a lazy selfish ignorant slob and they come a dime a dozen. AT LEAST try to find a jerk with a job!!!
shay
2007-07-27 01:43:20 UTC
seems like he's using you and all he needs is a place to stay if he really liked you he would show it and you would have no reason to question his actions,besides nobody likes a lazy guy so don't give yourself excuses like your'e used to it,set things straight,set an ultimatum for him to get a job or change his attitude towards you im sure they are better men out there who u wont have to slave over
ffangelgrl
2007-07-26 21:53:57 UTC
He wants a place to stay because otherwise, he would be helping you out more. He is not trying hard enough on his part to make your relationship work.
Reenell W
2007-07-27 08:07:49 UTC
Because like you said you don't mind

hell if it's that easy can you make room for my son the loaf, help take a load off me, since you really don't mind.

for sure my son won't even argue with you.
B H
2007-07-19 12:14:10 UTC
Kick the bum to the curb. As long as you let him live at your home rent free and take the abuse he is dishing out (and yes verbal abuse is still abuse) he will continue to do so. If he really wanted to help with the bills........McDonald's hires everyday. He sounds like a leech to me.
Ms understood
2007-07-19 12:14:58 UTC
Time to quit supporting this deadbeat. Kick him to the curb, and find a man with his own place and job who will treat you with respect.
jjohnny65
2007-07-25 02:00:54 UTC
This guy is a free-loader. Boot him out. If he cares about you he will get his act together then come courting. Good luck!
2007-07-26 19:17:49 UTC
DAMN LEARN HOW TO TYPE AND CANT YOU NOTICE HE IS LIVING OFF OF YOU GET THE MONEY YOU PAY BILLS WITH BUY SOME NICE CLOTHES AND FIND A BETTER MAN
2007-07-19 12:13:51 UTC
Your his meal ticket. He doesn't really care about you. If he did he would get off his lazy *** and find a job. If you were smart you would dump him and never look back. HE IS USING YOU.
♥ Vannie♥
2007-07-19 12:14:51 UTC
i think hes stressed hes tired of living off of u he doesnt want it to be that way he wants to be the man i think you should tell him how you feel tell him you love him often give him a chance dont fight with him when he starts let him go on my bf does this to me when i start cussin he shuts up an i just stop its not fun fighting with myself email me if you want more advise i.m me BUT TELL HIM HE NEEDS TO GET A JOB GET 1 FOR HIM IF U HAVE TO if he doesnt want to then hes lazy and hes using you l8trz
txpainthorse
2007-07-19 12:12:38 UTC
If you are not happy with this arrangement, you need to think of yourself and get out of it. Otherwise, say no more.
Tasha46
2007-07-27 05:50:58 UTC
My advice would be to sit him down and talk to him face2face.... TEll him how've you've been feeling and juz be honest with him..... If he blows you off, maybe he's juz not right for you.....
2007-07-27 03:02:17 UTC
you should mind because one day youll forget the condom or the pill and hell be the roll model for your kids
2007-07-27 00:56:25 UTC
oh dear, I know you know already the answer to you question...you've got to accept the fact..though it hurts..
surfbum68m
2007-07-19 12:14:47 UTC
You're being used and letting him do it. Kick him out.
2007-07-27 06:34:14 UTC
he's only using u so get over it
2007-07-27 02:06:08 UTC
burp
Kathy J
2007-07-19 12:12:04 UTC
a place to stay
Elis
2007-07-26 21:58:52 UTC
he is a LOSER and he is using you kick him out
@NGEL B@BY
2007-07-27 01:11:58 UTC
both
Heaven26
2007-07-19 12:13:12 UTC
Girl please you need to drop him. You can do bad all by yourself.
onelittleangelsittingonmyknee
2007-07-27 08:06:36 UTC
What is Emotional Abuse?



Abuse is any behavior that is designed to control and subjugate another human being through the use of fear, humiliation, intimidation, guilt, coercion, manipulation etc. Emotional abuse is any kind of abuse that is emotional rather than physical in nature. It can include anything from verbal abuse and constant criticism to more subtle tactics, such as repeated disapproval or even the refusal to ever be pleased.



Emotional abuse is like brain washing in that it systematically wears away at the victim's self-confidence, sense of self-worth, trust in their own perceptions, and self-concept. Whether it is done by constant berating and belittling, by intimidation, or under the guise of "guidance," "teaching", or "advice," the results are similar. Eventually, the recipient of the abuse loses all sense of self and remnants of personal value. Emotional abuse cuts to the very core of a person, creating scars that may be far deeper and more lasting that physical ones. In fact there is research to this effect. With emotional abuse, the insults, insinuations, criticism and accusations slowly eat away at the victim's self-esteem until she is incapable of judging the situation realistically. She has become so beaten down emotionally that she blames herself for the abuse. Her self-esteem is so low that she clings to the abuser.



Emotional abuse victims can become so convinced that they are worthless that they believe that no one else could want them. They stay in abusive situations because they believe they have nowhere else to go. Their ultimate fear is being all alone.



Types of Emotional Abuse



Abusive Expectations



The other person places unreasonable demands on you and wants you to put everything else aside to tend to their needs.

It could be a demand for constant attention, or a requirement that you spend all your free time with the person.

But no matter how much you give, it's never enough.

You are subjected to constant criticism, and you are constantly berated because you don't fulfill all this person's needs.

Aggressing



Aggressive forms of abuse include name-calling, accusing, blaming, threatening, and ordering. Aggressing behaviors are generally direct and obvious. The one-up position the abuser assumes by attempting to judge or invalidate the recipient undermines the equality and autonomy that are essential to healthy adult relationships. This parent-child pattern of communication (which is common to all forms of verbal abuse) is most obvious when the abuser takes an aggressive stance.

Aggressive abuse can also take a more indirect form and may even be disguised and "helping." Criticizing, advising, offering solutions, analyzing, proving, and questioning another person may be a sincere attempt to help. In some instances however, these behaviors may be an attempt to belittle, control, or demean rather than help. The underlying judgmental "I know best" tone the abuser takes in these situations is inappropriate and creates unequal footing in peer relationships. This and other types of emotional abuse can lead to what is known as learned helplessness.

Constant Chaos



The other person may deliberately start arguments and be in constant conflict with others.

The person may be "addicted to drama" since it creates excitement.

Denying



Denying a person's emotional needs, especially when they feel that need the most, and done with the intent of hurting, punishing or humiliating (Examples)

The other person may deny that certain events occurred or that certain things were said. confronts the abuser about an incident of name calling, the abuser may insist, "I never said that," "I don't know what you're talking about," etc. You know differently.

The other person may deny your perceptions, memory and very sanity.

Withholding is another form of denying. Withholding includes refusing to listen, refusing to communicate, and emotionally withdrawing as punishment. This is sometimes called the "silent treatment."

When the abuser disallows and overrules any viewpoints, perceptions or feelings which differ from their own.

Denying can be particularly damaging. In addition to lowering self-esteem and creating conflict, the invalidation of reality, feelings, and experiences can eventually lead you to question and mistrust your own perceptions and emotional experience.

Denying and other forms of emotional abuse can cause you to lose confidence in your most valuable survival tool: your own mind.

Dominating



Someone wants to control your every action. They have to have their own way, and will resort to threats to get it.

When you allow someone else to dominate you, you can lose respect for yourself.



Emotional Blackmail



The other person plays on your fear, guilt, compassion, values, or other "hot buttons" to get what they want.

This could include threats to end the relationship, totally reject or abandon you, giving you the the "cold shoulder," or using other fear tactics to control you.



Invalidation



The abuser seeks to distort or undermine the recipient's perceptions of their world. Invalidating occurs when the abuser refuses or fails to acknowledge reality. For example, if the recipient tells the person they felt hurt by something the abuser did or said, the abuser might say "You are too sensitive. That shouldn't hurt you." Here is a much more complete description of invalidation

Minimizing



Minimizing is a less extreme form of denial. When minimizing, the abuser may not deny that a particular event occurred, but they question the recipient's emotional experience or reaction to an event. Statements such as "You're too sensitive," "You're exaggerating," or "You're blowing this out of proportion" all suggest that the recipient's emotions and perceptions are faulty and not be trusted.

Trivializing, which occurs when the abuser suggests that what you have done or communicated is inconsequential or unimportant, is a more subtle form of minimizing.

Unpredictable Responses



Drastic mood changes or sudden emotional outbursts. Whenever someone in your life reacts very differently at different times to the same behavior from you, tells you one thing one day and the opposite the next, or likes something you do one day and hates it the next, you are being abused with unpredictable responses.

This behavior is damaging because it puts you always on edge. You're always waiting for the other shoe to drop, and you can never know what's expected of you. You must remain hypervigilant, waiting for the other person's next outburst or change of mood.

An alcoholic or drug abuser is likely to act this way. Living with someone like this is tremendously demanding and anxiety provoking, causing the abused person to feel constantly frightened, unsettled and off balance.

Verbal Assaults



Berating, belittling, criticizing, name calling, screaming, threatening



Excessive blaming, and using sarcasm and humiliation.



Blowing your flaws out of proportion and making fun of you in front of others. Over time, this type of abuse erodes your sense of self confidence and self-worth.





Understanding Abusive Relationships



No one intends to be in an abusive relationship, but individuals who were verbally abused by a parent or other significant person often find themselves in similar situations as an adult. If a parent tended to define your experiences and emotions, and judge your behaviors, you may not have learned how to set your own standards, develop your own viewpoints and validate your own feeling and perceptions. Consequently, the controlling and defining stance taken by an emotional abuser may feel familiar or even conformable to you, although it is destructive.



Recipients of abuse often struggle with feelings of powerlessness, hurt, fear, and anger. Ironically abusers tend to struggle with these same feelings. Abuser are also likely to have been raised in emotionally abusive environments and they learn to be abusive as a way to cope with their own feelings of powerlessness, hurt , fear, and anger. Consequently, abusers may be attracted to people who see themselves as helpless or who have not learned to value their own feelings, perceptions, or viewpoints. This allows the abuser to feel more secure and in control, and avoid dealing with their own feelings, and self-perceptions.



Emotional abuse victims can become so convinced that they are worthless that they believe that no one else could want them. They stay in abusive situations because they believe they have nowhere else to go. Their ultimate fear is being all alone.



Understanding the pattern of your relationships, specially those with family members and other significant people, is a fist step toward change. A lack of clarity about who you are in relationship to significant others may manifest itself in different ways. For example, you may act as an "abuser" in some instances and as a "recipient" in others. You may find that you tend to be abused in your romantic relationships, allowing your partners to define and control you. In friendships, however, you may play the role of abuser by withholding, manipulating, trying to "help" others, etc. Knowing yourself and understanding your past can prevent abuse from being recreated in your life.







Are You Abusive to Yourself?



Often we allow people into our lives who treat us as we expect to be treated. If we feel contempt for ourselves or think very little of ourselves, we may pick partners or significant others who reflect this image back to us. If we are willing to tolerate negative treatment from others, or treat others in negative ways, it is possible that we also treat ourselves similarly. If you are an abuser or a recipient, you may want to consider how you treat yourself. What sorts of things do you say to yourself? Do thoughts such as "I'm stupid" or "I never do anything right" dominate your thinking? Learning to love and care for ourselves increases self-esteem and makes it more likely that we will have healthy, intimate relationships.



Basic Needs in Relationships



If you have been involved in emotionally abusive relationships, you may not have a clear idea of what a healthy relationship is like. Evna (1992) suggests the following as basic needs in a relationship for you and your partner: (I have changed this from "rights" to "needs" and made other small changes- S.Hein)



The need for good will from the others.

The need for emotional support.

The need to be heard by the other and to be responded to with respect and acceptance

The need to have your own view, even if others have a different view.

The need to have your feelings and experience acknowledged as real.

The need to receive a sincere apology for any jokes or actions you find offensive.

The need for clear, honest and informative answers to questions about what affects you.

The need to for freedom from accusation, interrogation and blame.

The need to live free from criticism and judgment.

The need to have your work and your interests respected.

The need for encouragement.

The need for freedom from emotional and physical threat.

The need for freedom from from angry outburst and rage.

The need for freedom from labels which devalue you.

The need to be respectfully asked rather than ordered.

The need to have your final decisions accepted.







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Recommended Books







Engle, Beverly, M.F.C.C. The Emotionally Abused Woman: Overcoming Destructive Patterns and Reclaiming Yourself. New York: Fawcett Columbine, 1922

Evans, Patricia. The Verbally Abusive Relationship: How to Recognize It and How to respond. Holbrook, Massachusetts: Bob Adams, Inc., 1992.



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Having Your Needs Denied



One way of looking at emotional abuse is being denied the thing you need when you need it the most. John Bradshaw says something similar to this. He said we were most shamed at the times when we were most in need.



Here are some examples:



16 year old David goes into his room and locks the door behind him. He locks the door because his mother and father have been walking in on him and his girlfriend without knocking. The father tries to come in and finds the door is locked. He is furious. He bangs on the door. David opens it. His father accuses him of locking the door so he can have sex. As punishment, he takes the door off the hinges and removes it completely. He says, "This is my house and I won't have anyone locking the doors on me!"

Later that month, with the door to his bedroom still removed, David and his girlfriend are up late watching TV. His parents go to bed. David and his girlfriend wait till they think it is safe and then sneak downstairs to the basement, take off all their clothes and start making love. Suddenly the father comes in and turns on the lights.



Again, David needed privacy and his father denied it, while even worse, he humiliated and shamed him.









When Becca was 12 she went to her father and said "I feel like crying...." She wanted and needed to be comforted. She needed reassurance and wanted to know she would be accepted by her father, even when she not happy and smiling. Her father said uncaringly, "Well go cry then."

When she needed comfort, acceptance and reassurance, she got rejection.









Carolyn did not feel understood or accepted by her mother, so she spent a lot of time on the Internet writing poetry in her online journal and chatting with her friends who had similar problems with their parents. Her mother decided Carolyn was spending too much time on the Internet, so she had it cancelled completely.

When Carolyn most needed emotional support and a safe outlet for her feelings and thoughts, she was denied it by the person society has entrusted and empowered with filling her basic emotional needs.







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Characteristics of Emotionally Abused People



List 1 - Based on studies of Adult Children of Alcoholics

This list is from the work of Janet Geringer Woititz. She did her original work on adult children of alcoholics, but I believe her findings can be generalized to people who were emotionally abused in general. Certainly all children of alcoholics were emotionally abused.



Can only guess at what healthy behavior is.

Have trouble completing things

Lie when they don't need to. Lying might have been a survival tactic in the home. (She explains that perhaps the child learned from parents who lied to cover up problems or avoid conflict. Or simply to avoid harsh punishment, or to get needed attention. But as an adult, that tactic is no longer appropriate.)

Judge themselves without mercy.

Have trouble accepting compliments.

Often take responsibility for problems, but not successes.

Or they go to the other extreme and refuse to take any responsibility for mistakes while trying to take credit for the work of others.

Have trouble having fun since their childhoods were lost, stolen, repressed.

Take themselves very seriously or not seriously at all.

Have difficulty with intimate relationships.

Expect others to just "know what they want." (They can't express it because they were so often disappointed as children that they learned to stop asking for things.)

Over-react to things beyond their control.

Constantly seek approval & affirmation.

Feel different from others.

Are extremely loyal, even when facing overwhelming evidence that their loyalty is undeserved.

Are either super responsible or super irresponsible.

Tend to lock themselves into a course of action without giving serious consideration to alternative behaviors or possible consequences. (This impulsiveness leads to confusion, self-loathing, and loss of control over their environment. The result is they spend much energy blaming others, feeling victimized and cleaning up messes.)

She also makes this observation:



Intelligent people, through their ability to analyze, often realize things which are disconcerting, which others would not see. They also are often capable of feeling more deeply, both pain and joy.



Adapted from Struggle for Intimacy, by Janet Gerringer Woititz



See List 2 Below



List 2 - source unknown

Feelings of low self- esteem (they say as a result of being criticized.)

We perpetuate these parental messages by judging ourselves and others harshly. We try to cover up our poor opinions of ourselves by being perfectionistic, controlling, contemptuous and gossipy.

We tend to isolate ourselves out of fear and we feel often uneasy around other people, especially authority figures.

We are desperate for love and approval and will do anything to make people like us. Not wanting to hurt others, we remain "loyal" in situations and relationships even when evidence indicates our loyalty is undeserved. (I would say not wanting to lose them, having an extremely hard time "letting go.")

We are intimidated by angry people and personal criticism. This causes us to feel inadequate and insecure. (I would say it further adds to our feelings of inadequacy and insecurity.)

We continue to attract emotionally unavailable people with addictive personalities.

We live life as victims, blaming others for our circumstances, and are attracted to other victims (and people with power) as friends and lovers. We confuse love with pity and tend to "love" people we can pity and rescue. (And we confuse love with need)

We are either super-responsible or super-irresponsible. We take responsibility for solving others' problems or expect others to be responsible for solving ours. This enables us to avoid being responsible for our own lives and choices.

We feel guilty when we stand up for ourselves or act in our own best interests. We give in to others' needs and opinions instead of taking care of ourselves.

We deny, minimize or repress our feelings as a result of our traumatic childhoods. We are unaware of the impact that our inability to identify and express our feelings has had on our adult lives.

We are dependent personalities who are so terrified of rejection or abandonment that we tend to stay in situations or relationships that are harmful to us. Our fears and dependency stop us form ending unfulfilling relationships and prevent us from entering into fulfilling ones. (I would add because we feel so unlovable it is difficult or impossible to believe anyone can really love us, and won't eventually leave us once they see how "bad" we are.)

Denial, isolation, control, shame, and inappropriate guilt are legacies from our family of origin. As a result of these symptoms, we feel hopeless and helpless.

We have difficulty with intimacy, security, trust, and commitment in our relationships. Lacking clearly defined personal limits and boundaries, we become enmeshed in our partner's needs and emotions. (ie become codependent)

We tend to procrastinate and have difficulty following project through from beginning to end.

We have a strong need to be in control. We overreact to change things over which we have no control.











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Signs of Abusive, Authority Based Relationships



Based on an adaptation of work from Alice Miller's For Your Own Good and John Bradshaw's Healing the Shame That Binds You

Authority figures (AF) can be parents, partners, teachers, principals, supervisors, religious figureheads, cult leaders, etc. Dependents can be children, partners, students, employees, religious followers, etc. What matters is that there is a power imbalance and a dependence of some sort, whether physical, financial, "spiritual," psychological or emotional.



1. AF's are the masters of dependents.



2. AF's alone decide what is right and wrong.



3. They alone make up the definitions, the rules, and the "consequences" (i.e. punishment)



4. Dependents are held responsible for the AF's feelings (anger, disappointment, embarrassment, humiliation, happiness and unhappiness)



5. The AF is only responsible and accountable for good things that happen, never the bad ones. Thus the AF' appears to always be in the right and when things go wrong, the dependent is always blamed and feels responsible and guilty.



6. The AF tries to exercise total control of the dependent by controlling his thoughts, feelings and behavior. Whenever this control is not absolute, the AF feels threatened.



7. The dependent's individuality is minimized as much as possible by the AF.



8. The AF creates an intricate system of punishments and rewards which rob the dependent of any sense of inner direction and esteem.



9. The following freedoms listed by Virginia Satire are denied to the dependent as much as possible:



The freedom to perceive

To think and interpret

To feel

To want, need, and chose



10. The AF never (or rarely) admits mistakes or apologizes.



11. All of the above take place in a way which does not expose the AF's true motives and none of this is openly talked about. No "back talk" is allowed



Some of the Consequences



Mistakes are concealed

People are under constant stress

Needs are frustrated, denied

Fear dominates

Power is based on fear, not respect

Information is withheld and distorted

Information flow is primarily from top down

Behavior is forced; does not come naturally

Behavior is not consistent with true feelings, which adds to the stress

Conflicts and problems are blamed on the dependent's "poor attitudes" and "character flaws."

All of this tears the dependent person apart, causing self-alienation and even self-loathing. The dependent person loses faith in his/her own mind and feelings with devastating self-esteem consequences. Depression, rage, mood swings, co-dependency, self-injury and self-destruction are typical outcomes. If the authority figure is a parent the person will likely develop symptoms of various "disorders" such as the so-called Borderline Personality disorder, Social Anxiety Disorder, Anoexia, Bulemia etc.











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1. Adapted from Carnegie Mellon Counseling Center and http://www.bpdcentral.com/resources/abuse/evabuse.shtml



2. The term "learned helplessness" suggests that a person has been taught to feel helpless and think in self-defeating ways. In other words the person has been taught that nothing he or she can do will make a difference, that they can do nothing right, that others know better than they do, and that they have little or no power and control over either their own lives or external events.



Basic Needs in Relationships



If you have been involved in emotionally abusive relationships, you may not have a clear idea of what a healthy relationship is like. Evna (1992) suggests the following as basic needs in a relationship for you and your partner: (I have changed this from "rights" to "needs" and made other small changes- S.Hein)



The need for good will from the others.

The need for emotional support.

The need to be heard by the other and to be responded to with respect and acceptance

The need to have your own view, even if others have a different view.

The need to have your feelings and experience acknowledged as real.

The need to receive a sincere apology for any jokes or actions you find offensive.

The need for clear, honest and informative answers to questions about what affects you.

The need to for freedom from accusation, interrogation and blame.

The need to live free from criticism and judgment.

The need to have your work and your interests respected.

The need for encouragement.

The need for freedom from emotional and physical threat.

The need for freedom from from angry outburst and rage.

The need for freedom from labels which devalue you.

The need to be respectfully asked rather than ordered.

The need to have your final decisions accepted.



IF YOU CAN'T FIND THESE QUALITIES IN THE MAN YOUR TALKING ABOUT THEN EITHER YOU ARE CHOOSING TO BE ABUSED OR YOU NEED TO KICK HIM OUT!!!


This content was originally posted on Y! Answers, a Q&A website that shut down in 2021.
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