Question:
Do you agree with this reason for why nice guys finish last? (three paragraphs long)?
Sober Irishman
2008-09-29 19:03:25 UTC
This is something I saw someone else post as a response to a question as to why nice guys finish last, and I want to know what everyone thinks.

It's amazing that assholes can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it's not that amazing. They are assholes at heart, but to meet girls they lavish their undying love. It's a charade. They act nice, friendly, and they listen… until they get into what they're after. Their prey thinks they are in love with them, however when they realize what assholes their predators really are, they pretend like the asshole is really nice inside. The girl tries to change the asshole into a nice guy, but assholes will always be assholes. She gets upset and goes to the nice guy to complain about the asshole. But she claims to love the asshole… Now this is where the theory begins. She doesn't want to look like she is easy so she wont dump the asshole right away; instead she will stay with the asshole. Girls are idiots. They don't realize that the nice guy has been there all along. He never had to pretend to be a good guy to get girls because he is naturally like that; however, girls don't see it for some reason or another. They look at the nice guy as a friend, a trusted companion to whom they can tell their sad story to about their asshole boyfriend. But the nice guy isn't THAT naïve. He was trying to win the girl he listened to all along.


The problem is that since he is a nice guy he keeps listening. Since girls get attached to things that pay attention to them, they think of the nice guy as a friend. A FRIEND. They don't say, "Oh he's hot" or "I want to have his children" about the nice guy, they just want the emotional support. When they get the emotional support from the nice guy, they don't need it from the asshole. The nice guy gets the **** end of the stick while the asshole gets all the action. I am starting to wonder if being a nice guy is really the route to take to get action… I have been down this path for all of my post-pubescent life and it has gotten me NOWHERE… at least not in the women department. Perhaps another reason why girls fall for the asshole is because assholes ignore the girl they are with. The women wonder, "Why isn't he paying attention to me?" so they explore why. They poke and prod and get closer to the asshole. They start to get easier with each attempt to get closer. The asshole finally says, "I've let this beauty dangle long enough, time to boat this bass". It is then he puts on his charade and the girl feels like she has won him… even thought all she has won is an asshole. Once you have gone down the path as a nice guy or a "listener" you can't turn back. The girl will always go after the assholes because there are always nice guys there to listen. Once you realize that you are a "listener" you cant do anything about it… just pack up and close shop. There is no way you will get her… ever.


There is and never will be a situation where the nice guy will get the girl he has a crush on. It just doesn't work like that. The girl wont "come to her senses" and realize what an asshole her boyfriend is like in the movies… instead she will just go after another asshole, and unless you stop being a nice guy, she will never go after you. Women complain that there are no nice guys in the world. Right. They are obviously not looking hard enough because there are nice guys EVERYWHERE!!!! Girls aren't looking for nice guys… they say they are but they're not. They are looking for the perfect asshole, but there is NO SUCH THING as the perfect asshole. All in all, the nice guy gets the shaft. To all the girls out there with boyfriends that don't treat you with respect, that don't listen to you, and that don't care about you I say this; look next to you. The guy that has been standing next to you the whole time is the guy you have been looking for. He is what you want your asshole to be like. He knows more about you than you know about yourself… because he has listened to it all.
Three answers:
Miyani10
2008-09-29 21:28:02 UTC
Some girls want assholes b/c they are a bit of a challenge! They're exciting and hard to figure out. If the nice guy was hot and he didn't act like a player, I would definately go out with him...but I haven't met any nice guys that are really exciting or have alot of confidence...they're just relaxed and never random. I want to be spontanious with them, but it's like I have to wait and wait and wait, when the asshole can just sweep me up and carry me on his back or something. Very random and exciting. My first and only boyfriend was, unfortunately, an asshole, but I also had many nice guys around that I liked and I went out with them too, but it's just the randomness that assholes present is what makes a girl want them!



If you respect me and we don't argue about stupid stuff all the time, then that's great! That's what I want, but I also want you to be courageous and just go for things with me and be random and that's what some assholes do!
New World Man ∞ Temet Nosce
2008-09-30 04:43:40 UTC
Take the Freudian approach.



Girls want their fathers (not literally, but that is their first example of male/female relationships). A "nice guy" who is genuinely a nice guy will appeal the girl as a father-replacer, but only in the sense that he is there to protect and care and listen and love from a distance--remember that the incest taboo keeps the girl from feeling romantically about anyone who reminds her of her father.



The a**hole may remind the girl of the part of her father that was mean or authoritarian towards her, (i.e., the part of her father that she feels represents her failure to be good enough, nice enough, pretty enough, etc, etc,). So, she stays with the a**hole in an attempt at finally measuring up to her father in the way she never could at home. Plus, sex comes into it because with that, she can be pretty sure the guy will stay around, and it probably gets associated, in her mind, with feelings of love and male-nurturing.



The nice guy finishes last, sure, but he's the one who's going to keep the girl in the long run. The a**hole ends up alone, drunk in the bar by noon, in jail for spousal abuse, DUI, or whatever else he gets himself into.
nikkirose618
2008-10-01 01:22:54 UTC
well that was long...but not your fault, ... yes some girls act this way i know a few myself but im not one, i like the nice, ive been burned by the nice guy (he turned into a player once highschool started)....some girls do this i think in a way to make them selves feel needed cuz these guys need help to change and they believe they can helpp them do it even tho they almost never do, also it might be cuz they want to rebel against others prob parents tell a girl not to date a guy willing to betcha 2 out of 3 girls will still date him. it also might be that they dont think they deserve better,maybe they never had a good male romodel in their life ,, he is right by saying its a cylce, but i think he sounds a bit prejudice probably cuz this happened to him...yes somegirls once they name you as a friend you can never go past it BUT NOT WITH ALL GIRLS.... tho, this is true with one movie cant remem name the guy used to be fat but his best friend was hot and was really nice to him, she didnt know he loved him but she only thought of them as friends. movie flashes forward when he looses weght and they meat and stuff happens..it also happened sorta in movie over her dead body but she thought he was gay. BUT dont let this get to your heead, all girls arnt like this, some are but not all!


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